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Today, Cereal Readers talks with YA author, Ellie Marney, about grunge characters, writing romantic scenes, and scouting murder locations for her latest book in the YA crime thriller series, Every<\/i>.<\/span><\/b><\/h4>
Firstly, let me say how much I enjoyed Every Word<\/i>. (No pun intended!) The underlying story definitely gained momentum and developed in complexity, as did the key characters. Apart from the cryptic murder mystery to solve in the UK, Rachel and Mycroft and their evolving relationship <\/i>became even more intriguing! It’s sparked many questions for me, so I’d better get started…

[CR]  While the novel gives us Rachel\u2019s point-of-view, with Every Word<\/i> you\u2019ve drawn the reader more deeply into Mycroft\u2019s angst and the evolving relationship between the two teenagers. What were the challenges in exploring Mycroft\u2019s psyche without writing from his perspective?<\/span><\/b>

[Ellie]  Ha, I was only thinking about this yesterday!  Because I was writing Rachel\u2019s point of view, there were times when I felt a bit disconnected from Mycroft\u2019s psyche, and I really had to think long and hard about how he would feel, what he would say or do \u2013 that\u2019s what happens, I suppose, when you become so firmly embedded in the head of one character.

To stay connected to Mycroft, I spent a while thinking about where he\u2019s come from, and why he feels the way he does \u2013 what is this deep-seated sense of self-loathing grounded in? I even wrote out a few scenes using his POV, so I could really get a handle on it, particularly scenes where he\u2019s very self-critical \u2013 it helped me to clarify that he\u2019s still grieving so much for his parents, it\u2019s something he\u2019s never allowed himself to express properly so it\u2019s like a wound that\u2019s festered. Writing out of James\u2019s POV really helped – sometimes you have to do that, remove yourself from the head of one character and get into another character\u2019s head, to develop a better understanding.<\/i>

[CR]  Mycroft\u2019 is an unusual character, isn\u2019t he? He\u2019s incredibly intense and somewhat unstable; something of an anti-hero, in many respects. What prompted you to create his character in the way you did?<\/span><\/span>
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[Ellie]  I just think that people who are really driven and intense are fascinating characters \u2013 they\u2019re great to read about!  They\u2019re wonderful to write too \u2013 that level of unpredictability is wonderful, it means your story can take unexpected twists and turns that are all character-driven.  In some ways, those characters really write themselves \u2013 that\u2019s certainly how I felt about Mycroft, that once I had the idea for him, he started to spring out fully formed!<\/i>

But intense people like Mycroft tend to get that way for a reason, and it\u2019s usually something traumatic that brings that out. Mycroft\u2019s had some pretty horrific experiences in his life, and his current living arrangement is far from ideal, for him or his aunt (although they are starting to soften towards one another in <\/i>Every Word, and things evolve further in <\/i>Every Move).  Mycroft has a lot of potential, as an investigator and as a person, but he\u2019s got a lot of baggage to get past.  I think teenage (and adult) readers identify with that desire to mature and conquer your own personal demons, so you can live up to your own potential.<\/i>

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Ellie Marney  [Photo: Justine Bernhaut]<\/i><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table>[CR]  Every<\/i> is a crime mystery series with an emphasis on forensics, what motivated you to write in this genre for young adults? How did the forensic focus come about? Is it a particular interest of yours?<\/span><\/b>

[Ellie]  I confess that I actually love forensic procedurals!  There\u2019s something about the focus on the details of the puzzle that I really enjoy, and the forensic examination of physical remains is something that I find fascinating \u2013 it\u2019s like Rachel said, it\u2019s gory, but there\u2019s something so universally human in it, that final understanding of the body in death.  And the idea that a person\u2019s body can hold the clues to their own death, even after they\u2019ve lost the ability to tell us what happened to them, is really quite amazing and mysterious.
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I suppose I felt that the forensic procedural was something that had never been done for an Australian YA audience before (to my knowledge: although US-writer Barry Lyga uses it in his crime\/horror novels to great effect).  And I\u2019d spent some time in high school libraries, and seen books by Patricia Cornwell and other \u2018forensic focused\u2019 mysteries for adults on high school shelves, so I knew that secondary students had some interest.
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I think teenagers are actually as interested in the processes of death and post-mortem as everybody else.  It\u2019s a bit of a taboo subject, and teenagers enjoy nothing better than breaking taboos!<\/i>

[CR]  The theme of fire runs throughout the novel\u2014whether it\u2019s an external fire, such as the bushfire threats Rachel remembers from her farm days, or the internal burn of passion or the burning desire for resolution. How important was the fire imagery to how you unfolded this part of Rachel and Mycroft\u2019s story?<\/span><\/b>

[Ellie]  Ah, my editor actually had to rein me in with the fire motif! \u2013 she was like \u2018Okay, Ellie, I think we\u2019ve got enough fire-related metaphors now\u2019!  I had to tone it down. \ud83d\ude42<\/i>
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<\/i>It was something I realised was coming through when I was halfway done with the writing \u2013 some themes only clonk you over the head when you re-read.  I thought it was pretty appropriate for the reasons you suggested, it was a good linking image for the building romance, and Mycroft\u2019s fiery temperament.  Also this book is really about Rachel growing up: that burn of energy and excitement that starts rising inside when you start emerging into adult life, and realising you can make your own decisions.  And I thought it made a great contrast with the cold weather of England!
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Interestingly, when I went to the Bodleian Library to do research, I discovered that they make you swear an oath \u2013 an honest-to-goodness, old-fashioned oath \u2013 before giving you permission to enter, in which you swear \u2018not to kindle, or allow to be kindled, any fire or flame within the confines of the library\u2019\u2026  Very sympatico!<\/i>

[CR]  As characters, Rachel and Mycroft are not \u2018glossy\u2019; you\u2019ve given them a very real\/grounded presence with not only scruffy hair and extremely limited wardrobes, but with an almost grunge appearance and nicks from shaving, etc. Did you have any concerns with how their images would be received, given many young adult novels present their characters as physically quite polished?<\/span><\/b>

[Ellie]  Oh no, I definitely wanted them a bit grungy!  It actually drives me mad, the way teenagers are sometimes portrayed as being so put-together, especially female characters.  Teenagers are messy!  That is their natural state!  And Rachel and James have way too much going on in their lives for them to fuss over things like their hair or clothes.  I just couldn\u2019t imagine them preening, it would seem out of character – Rachel is too pragmatic, and James is too mentally preoccupied.

I didn\u2019t think of how that would go down with readers at all, but they seem to enjoy it.  Maybe they appreciate a touch of reality! <\/i>

<\/a><\/div>[CR]  In Every Word<\/i>, Rachel has joined a roller derby team! Why did you choose that particular sport for her?<\/span><\/b>

[Ellie]  I\u2019m a huge fan of full contact sport for women.  I trained martial arts (tae kwon do, kickboxing, karate, you name it), as a teenager and adult, so I\u2019m quite into it \u2013 going to grungy gyms, and getting sweaty and sore.  There should be more pathways into hard sports for girls, I think, because many of them don\u2019t have a go, or have a try and then give it away \u2013 it used to be considered \u2018unlady-like\u2019, and it\u2019s interesting how that limitation still exists in some contact sports.  Consequently, women have reserves of endurance and physical strength that they rarely take advantage of.

Roller derby is hard, rough, and absolutely thrilling to watch!  A friend, Meg Philips, talked me through a big derby bout and worded me up on the lingo \u2013 like \u2018boutfits\u2019, for the wild gear that the competitors wear \u2013 it was fantastic!  Rachel\u2019s mate, Mai Ng, is the derby girl in <\/i>Every Breath, and it seemed natural that Rachel would gravitate towards a sport that made use of her natural toughness.<\/i>


[CR]  I loved the \u2018tuning fork\u2019 simile you used to describe Rachel\u2019s acute responsiveness to Mycroft. It perfectly communicates how attuned they are to one another and the visceral nature of their attraction. The romantic tension between Rachel and Mycroft certainly intensifies in Every Word! <\/i>You write these scenes amazingly well and they have an endearing honesty about them. Just how difficult are they to write?<\/span><\/span><\/b><\/div>

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[Ellie]  Interesting question!  <\/span>I actually wrote some of the more romantic scenes from <\/span><\/i>Every Word<\/span><\/span> before I even had the green light for a sequel, and a couple of the scenes in the book flowed very naturally \u2013 I was mindful of the fact that this is the \u2018honeymoon\u2019 stage of Rachel and James\u2019s relationship, when you can\u2019t get enough of each other.  <\/span>Plus, of course, the fact that they\u2019re both seventeen!<\/span><\/i>
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But one scene\u2026I won\u2019t tell you which one!…I swear I wrote it, and then re-wrote it, and then re-re-wrote it\u2026  <\/span>I had about seven goes at it, and by the end I just gave every version to my editor and said, \u2018Look, I can\u2019t even tell if this is sexy any more, you choose the best one\u2019! <\/span><\/i><\/div> <\/i>
I find with romantic scenes \u2013 which I\u2019ve never felt I have a talent for, by the way \u2013 that I prefer to write very plainly, without too much lyrical embellishment.  <\/span>I try not to use fancy language when I\u2019m writing romantic scenes.  <\/span>I think the poetry of it only emerges in your mind afterwards.  <\/span>I sometimes add a few small touches when the writing\u2019s done, but not during the writing itself, because it intellectualises what\u2019s essentially a very visceral experience.  <\/span>When the characters are in the heat of the moment, they aren\u2019t really thinking of those things \u2013 they\u2019re barely thinking in complete sentences!<\/span><\/i><\/div> <\/i>
I also felt that the romantic scenes in <\/span><\/i>Every Word<\/span><\/span> were an important counterpoint to the autopsy scenes \u2013 the rush of life in your body when you\u2019re young and in love, set against the profound mystery of the body in death.<\/span><\/i><\/div>
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[CR]  You have four boys, have any of them read Every Word<\/i>? What were their reactions to the steamier scenes?<\/span><\/span><\/b><\/div>

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[Ellie]  Yes, I have four boys, but only my oldest son has read <\/span><\/i>Every Word<\/span><\/span> so far.  <\/span>He\u2019s thirteen, so I felt that it was age-appropriate \u2013 although I think he would have argued fairly stridently that he had a right to read it anyway!<\/span><\/i><\/div> <\/i>
I asked him about the romance scenes in the book, and his response was that it was \u2018pretty legit\u2019 (his term!) because they were both seventeen, and it seemed like it would be normal ie: a natural progression from the first book.  <\/span>He said Rachel and James \u2018only got to have, like, ten minutes or something\u2019 of kissing time in <\/span><\/i>Every Breath<\/span><\/span>, so it seemed fair they would get more time together in book two!<\/span><\/i><\/div>
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[CR]  I read in your \u2018Acknowledgements\u2019 that you had indeed spent time in London and Oxford researching for the book. Tell us something about that experience. <\/span><\/span><\/b><\/div>
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[Ellie]  Oh, that was so wonderful!  <\/span>I was about halfway through the manuscript, and trying vainly to find out some location details on Google Earth, I think, when my partner looked over and said \u2018You know, you should go to England\u2019.  <\/span>As if that was just obvious, or easy!  <\/span>But then his sister had some time off work, and my brother was available to help out, and my father offered to come down to spend some time with his grandkids\u2026so Geoff and I had the chance to go to London for ten days.  <\/span>It worked out so well, it was like it was meant to be!<\/span><\/i>
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I did a very unconventional tour of London though \u2013 while Geoff was at the British Museum, I was touring the Westminster Mortuary, and scouting locations for murders.  <\/span>He came with me for some of my odder side-trips, like researching the site of the car accident in High Wycombe.  <\/span>A very helpful taxi driver showed us the perfect spot!<\/span><\/i><\/div>

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[CR]  When you were at the Westminster Public Mortuary, did you witness an autopsy first hand? <\/span><\/b>

[Ellie]  No, I didn\u2019t \u2013 I think that\u2019s actually very hard to receive permission to do.  It\u2019s certainly something I\u2019ve found impossible to do in Australia, and I can fully understand why that\u2019s so.  What I did do in London was to interview an Anatomical and Pathology Technician, and she was incredibly helpful.  I was also given a full tour of the mortuary premises, including the Forensic Suite.  I should have taken photos, but I was very aware of how sensitive some of these details are, and how scrupulous staff have to be – considering the feelings of relatives of the deceased, and being aware of current judicial cases, and so on.  So I just looked very long and hard, and made page after page of scribbled notes.  I tried to be as faithful to my original descriptions as possible, from the look of the place to the smells and sounds.  It\u2019s a very calm environment, but still quite disturbing on some levels.

I also read and re-read Helen Garner\u2019s account of witnessing an autopsy in her famous article \u2018At the Morgue\u2019 \u2013 her impressions in that article, combined with my own experience of walking through the mortuary plus some online research, formed the basis for Rachel\u2019s description of the post-mortem in <\/i>Every Word.  I have no idea how Helen Garner managed to get permission to view an autopsy \u2013 I met her recently, after a speaking event, and she said she actually got a dressing-down from the Coroner when he realised she\u2019d been allowed in!<\/i><\/div>
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Shakespeare’s First Folio<\/i><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table>[CR]  I am quite envious that you were able to handle Shakespeare\u2019s First Folio! How did you decide that the item stolen in the novel would be the First Folio?<\/span><\/b>

[Ellie]  Oh, that was incredible!  I was given an amazing opportunity to interview the Head of Rare Books, as well as a library conservator, at the Bodleian Library in Oxford.  And when I asked to see some of the books published at around the time of the First Folio \u2013 which is absolutely impossible to view, unless you\u2019re a president, or a prime minister, or something like that, it\u2019s just so valuable and precious \u2013 the Head of Rare Books explained that actually, the Korean ambassador had been in to view the Folio only the day before, and the Folio was still in the office, and would I like a look?  I spluttered a lot before I said yes!

Viewing and handling the First Folio is something only a few dozen people in the world ever have the opportunity to do, so I felt enormously privileged.  Seriously, Shakespeare is like the writer\u2019s god, so I felt like someone had handed me the Holy Grail or something. I was in a daze for ages afterwards!

Why did I use the Folio as the catalyst for the mystery?  Well, that\u2019s a good question \u2013 actually I think I was being a bit self-serving there!  I wanted to send the characters back to England, to explore Mycroft\u2019s past.  For me, England is the home of Shakespeare, and the Folio is one of the most crucial cultural artefacts of not only the UK, but all of Western literature.  When you set the stakes in a theft caper, you\u2019ve got to set them high! (It was either that or the Crown Jewels!)<\/i>

[CR]  Do you find it easier to write during the day or at night? What sort of routine do you have and what methods do you use if the words aren’t flowing as you’d like?<\/b><\/span>

[Ellie]  I write first thing in the morning \u2013 very early in the morning, when I\u2019m on a roll.  I used to get up at about 4.45am and start work at 5, to get in as much as I could before school preparations and general life began.  I have a more sane routine now, getting up about an hour before school prep, and working on after everyone has left!

When the words aren\u2019t flowing I am a bit of a bull terrier \u2013 I will sit and stare at it, and keep pounding away at the keyboard.  Bum glue is what Stephen King calls it, where you just sit and keep banging away until you\u2019ve got something you can craft properly later.  If I\u2019m really stuck, I will go for a walk, or do dishes or something \u2013 some repetitive, boring task that lets you think \u2013 until I figure out what\u2019s going on.  Often if I\u2019ve reached an impasse it means I\u2019ve forced the characters to do something that isn\u2019t natural for them.  Then I have to go back and find the point where it was flowing, and allow the characters to make a more natural choice.<\/i>

<\/i>[CR]  Every Word<\/i> is a novel I think would lend itself very well to a film adaptation. Is that something you can also envisage?<\/b><\/span>

[Ellie]  I try not to think about that!  Of course it would be lovely, but it\u2019s something completely outside my control \u2013 so many good ideas never find their way onto screens, film and television production is such a complex process.  I worked with VCA film students for a year when I first came to Melbourne, doing crew work, and making a film is an incredibly complicated thing, even as a student.  How films ever get made, when you see what goes on behind the scenes, is really quite miraculous, in my opinion.

So I will happily let the characters live and adventure in my head, and if they ever make it onto a screen then I will be both delighted and amazed!<\/i>

<\/i> <\/i>[CR]  Of course, I have to ask you, what series did you enjoy when you were growing up?<\/span><\/b><\/span> <\/i>

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[Ellie]  So many!  <\/span>I had a deep love of exploring every book in an author\u2019s collection, as a kid.  <\/span>I read a lot of science fiction \u2013 Isaac Asimov\u2019s <\/span><\/i>Foundation<\/span><\/span> series, which my father gave me, as well as all his <\/span><\/i>Robot<\/span><\/span>stories, amongst other things.  <\/span>I also read fantasy \u2013 David Eddings\u2019s <\/span><\/i>Belgariad<\/span><\/span>series was my favourite in high school (I still have those paperbacks!  <\/span>My second son is reading them now), as well as all the Conan Doyle and Agatha Christie books (I always liked <\/span><\/i>Poirot <\/span>best!).  <\/span>I also loved the <\/span><\/i>Anne of Green Gables<\/span><\/span><\/a> series by Lucy Montgomery, they were lovely. \ud83d\ude42<\/span><\/i><\/div><\/i>
Ellie, thank you for taking the time to discuss Every Word<\/i> with us in such detail. It was wonderful <\/span>to hear about <\/span>the characters of Rachel and Mycroft, and to gain insight into the background of the novel and your writing process. I know I’m one of many who are looking forward to how the story resolves in the final book of the series, Every Move<\/i> (due out in 2015).<\/span><\/span><\/i>

<\/span><\/i>Every Word<\/i> is published by Allen & Unwin and currently available in bookstores and online. You can also view information on the Every<\/i> series<\/a>, including a review on Ellie Marney’s first novel, Every Breath<\/i>, on the Cereal Readers’ website: www.cerealreaders.com<\/a>.<\/b><\/span>
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